Which tecnique is better in quality oil painting using black or not using black?

do not use black!!! by all means!! i was an art major in college...you need to use primary colors to create your own black...never buy it...all you should buy are white, red, yellow, and blue...create every other color from there. My painting instructor would have killed us if we came in with black paint!Which tecnique is better in quality oil painting using black or not using black?
Fooey. I'm tired of people saying not to use black in a painting. To darken a color you might want to mix with it's complement to get a richer color because using black can flatten color. However, that's how color is gauged by tint and tone: tint, white: tone or shade, black.





Now, here are artists who used black: Rembrandt, Raphael, DaVinci, El Greco, De la Tour, Turner, Delacroix, Manet, Renoir, Degas, Matisse, Picasso, VanGogh, Chagall, Dali, O'Keeffe, Rivera, Rothko, Diebenkorn, indisputably the finest in the world, and just a handful of those who use black -- SO USE BLACK.





Art Schools went through a period of color purism that taught students not to use black. It was a trend and is still taught occasionally. Use black. But again, if you are looking only to darken your colors, then look to using other colors that are darker than the color you are using. It will alter the color differently than using black. For example, adding black to red will make it more violet first, then browner, depending on the colors you are using. Adding green to red will deepen it, adding violet to red will deepen it and give it a bluer tinge.





Do an experiment with color mixing and make a color chart for some of the colors you are using and see what combinations you can make and what suits you and your work. Don't listen to anyone who says no black.Which tecnique is better in quality oil painting using black or not using black?
Cinna is absolutely right! Never use black from a tube. The reason is that prepared blacks in tubes appear as holes in your canvas and they crack and flake quickly so they will not last. The darkest 'black' you can mix (I use it alot) is about half and half Burnt Umber and Ultra-marine blue. See my stuff and wherever there appears to be black you can be assured it isn't from a tube!


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I've heard many theories on black and some of them I agree with.





You need to be careful with black as it can deaden colors and technically it has a lot of oil (fat) so you need to be careful not to paint over it with a lean paint.








Monet did not use black, Manet did.
Hi:





There is absolutely nothing wrong with having black pigments and paints to mix in with other paints. Mixing other colors usually cannot create a dark enough tone, particularly because the paints may have white pigments in them. There are different properties in oil paints, and usually white paints contain heavier pigments, like lead, that may migrate from the top surface of a painting to a lower area - so that if a light highlight is painted over a dark background, the highlight will probably fade over time.





I usually use soft pastels now, because they have some properties I prefer. One of the nicest things about soft pastel images is that the pigments are so densely packed on the surface, if properly cared for and stored, the colors have less of a likelyhood of fading over time. There are many examples of pastel paintings done from up to a few hundred years ago (when pastels were really first developed) that really don't show any signs of age - unlike oils where the surface may crack or fade. I usually apply pastels and scumble and blend the colors together on the media surface, and I would feel really limited in values if I didn't have a black available. Usually, a good back color for pastels can be to use vine or willow charcoal because it seems to create nice darks. Compressed carbon also seems to make a nice dark. These actual components are created from charred wood, and I think my actual black pastels, from makers like Art Spectrum, Unison, Rembrandt pastels, may be from iron oxides.





A painter also has options to use a limited palette in creating an image, so it all just depends on what an artist is trying to accomplish.





Hope this helps.
it depends on what you are trying to do. black will automatically darken and DULL colors so you have to watch out for that, unless you want it to appear dull. with black your colors won't be nice and rich. another thing, if you only use black in one spot, it will disract the viewer from the rest of the painting cause there eyes will probably go right to the spot.